Michael Versteeg joined Josh early on in the life of the podcast to talk about a range of topics at his whim.

When Michael Versteeg joins a podcast, the role of the host is to let the man cook.

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Josh Rosenthal is the founder of Borderlands, an editorial media company built around trail running, ultrarunning, and the culture surrounding the sport. Through essays, films, interviews, and the Borderlands Trail + Ultra Running Podcast, he is building Borderlands into a media institution for deeper stories, sharper counterpoints, and a fuller celebration of trail running. His work brings taste, curiosity, and cultural analysis to a sport often covered through race results, gear, and athlete-led narratives.